Thanks, Sarah, for sharing. He didn’t say, “Hey, guys, it’s me!” At least until much later. We don’t talk about the Holy Spirit very often, yet this is the gift we have been left by Jesus Christ when He left the earth. As an aside, I am currently about 1/3 of the way through the book you recently mentioned to me, Grit, and like it a great deal. I missed out a lot on the traditional spiritual disciplines as well, and have enjoyed learning, as an adult, about how to do contemplative prayer, lectio divina, etc., from a nearby Catholic community. click here if you can’t see the 1:27 video. the expectation that God should heal everyone who was prayed for and if he didn’t the problem must be a lack of faith. The Holy Spirit not only speaks the words of Jesus to you, but he actually is the one who leads and directs your steps into the abundant life that Jesus promised. I can tell that this is a subject you’ve spent time studying, Linda. May you have a wonderful Easter! You likely have one, too. John Oakes Sermons in Bakersfield: John IX Jesus and the Feast of Tabernacles. The word spirit is rendered as רוּחַ … Miracles abound. Or instead do you believe he stopped moving supernaturally near the end of the first century? Thanks for bringing that up, Anita. And often the reason they didn’t pray for them or ask for them is because they had a prior conviction or belief that they did not exist or were not available to them. It never did, and I grieved for a while, thinking there was something wrong with me. He is not some impersonal power, like energy. http://blessed-are-the-pure-of-heart.blogspot.com/2017/04/your-dying-spouse-295-patient-pride.html, Glad to get your take on this, Andrew. The Holy Spirit was pretty active during the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. I recommend this book be read with an open mind. I pray you and your family have a blessed Easter. Thanks for your personal testimony, Mary. How do you respond to the claim that acc. Perhaps one of our challenges is that we human types tend to like boxes and our churches seem to often separate on a continuum as a result of our human efforts to under a divine God. I did want to hear what you’d have to say on this. Thanks for sharing, Bettie. I have a preference. Alejandro Espino, Thanks for following up on the article, “12 Reasons Why the Holy Spirit is Not a Person” (Part-1) The verses you brought up are BIG topics which require a full Bible Study on each of them because we need to include the CONTEXT of each verse when trying to understand what it means. The aforementioned paragraph is key. When in actuality even nature shows us His awe! That is why we need to Holy Spirit. The Bible notes several roles the Holy Spirit plays in the lives of people today. It’s always uplifting to hear others’ experiences of how they have seen God at work, in all kinds of places. Have a blessed Easter. They are not necessarily meant for believers, but for unbelievers to see and know Christ. I see him at work in my own life and in the lives of those around me. Don’t live in fear of the devil and his minions. Copyright ® 2020 Evidence for Christianity. – Sam Storms. I agree that sometimes we don’t see as many miracles because we aren’t looking for them. The drive to figure out and explore what is and what is not about only asked us push towards blurred lines. If it once was, it still is, however, there are certain qualification that must be present in our life. We likely can all agree on this prayer offered by Storms in his conclusion: “Pray yet again that God would increase your spiritual hunger pangs, that he would intensify your thirst for godly power, that he would never allow you to settle for the status quo.”. I believe whole-heartedly the Holy Spirit works today in miraculous ways. I totally agree with you that the Spirit communicates with us when we’re receptive to listen! I imagine Sam’s book could be controversial in the minds of some people but your call to read with an open mind gives fair warning. CBN.com – The Baptist world was rocked in 1993 when Jack Deere, a former professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, published the groundbreaking book, Surprised by the Power of the Spirit – describing the … Hopefully it will spare me some of the mistakes I made in the years prior to that, thinking I understood so much about God. We are not questioning the Spirit's ability to give gifts to His people; we recognize that the Holy Spirit can dispense gifts if He is willing (1 Corinthians 12:7-11). Maybe it’s because those praying actually believe in the power of God to overcome evil. Then at a later time I was reading books like The Cross and the Switchblade, famous at the time, where this kind of thing was just taken as perfectly natural. Because I have been blessed to have witnessed a number of miracles I can honestly say I’ve seen the Holy Spirit at work. And, he maintains, many Christians in the West remain closed to the Spirit and are hampered by fear when it comes to relating to Him and … As such, there are not two classes of Christians (the "saved" and the "charismatic"); if you are born again, you have been baptized in the Spirit. Not only does the Holy Spirit help us when we are weak, but He prays for us as well. Miracles are not used by God to convince people to become a Christian, but to validate that the message is from God. This is a deep subject, and the Bible even tells us the following: “Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.” 1 Corinthians 14:12. … What a blessing to know that God is always with us! The question is, does He still give miraculous gifts to the church today, or was the giving of spiritual gifts a "one-time deal" that applied only to the early church? But whether you agree or not, you won’t feel pushed in this book. John 16:8 notes, "And when he [the Holy Spirit] comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment." The role of the Holy Spirit: to give us strength and help in our fight against sin. We all have much to learn from each other. “Fasting is about spiritual indulgence! There is only one God and He is the third divine person of the Trinity. My conscience and the Holy Spirit … Thank you for a great and inviting review! Whichever view you hold, this book might interest you. I have known people who have been miraculously healed, but it hasn’t come by laying on of hands or someone praying over them and pronouncing them healed. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. (as I would define them anyway). Storms follows that list with another list: “Twelve Good Reasons for Being a Continuationist” (one who believes that all the gifts of the Spirit continue to be given by God today). Your final statement sums it up well for me, too: “I do believe the Holy Spirit works today but I think it’s not always in a way we can predict or control.”. My thanks to BookLook Bloggers According to Acts 5:32 Almighty God Jehovah 'gives holy spirit to those obeying him as ruler', 'they are no part of the world' (John 17:16), Jesus' true disciples. I continue to think about it, even after I finished the book (which is one sign of a good book to me). From Scripture we learn that the Holy Spirit is God. . Sorry about that. The latter appendix includes this list: “Twelve Bad Reasons for Being a Cessationist” (one who believes certain gifts have ceased, stopped). ha. The Holy Spirit is quite active in our lives, and I think it’s important to see how the Holy Spirit takes action today. If God created nature perfect, and if nature has two sexes, how should we act toward LGBT and hostile feminists? Thanks for stopping in, Margaret. I have to be careful to not get caught up in MY view, but to trust in God’s plan! The question is whether the miraculous gifts of the Spirit, described primarily in 1 Corinthians 12–14, are still active in the church today. While that doesn’t negate the healings that do occur, it does remind me that (1) miraculous healing is not something we can conjure up on our own, and that (2) healing doesn’t always look like we think anyway. Glad you are one. (See here for full justification.) He grieves, He knows, He is eternal, He encourages, He gives understanding, He gives peace, He comforts, He directs, and He can be prayed to. Does God know all future events, including possible events? Jesus’ life was the ultimate lesson in righteousness, and He has sent us a Helper to teach us to learn righteousness of Him. You are in Christ who is over all. One of the reasons is: “If signs, wonders, and miracles were essential in the physical presence of the Son of God, how much more essential are they now in his absence? At the end of the first century, there would have still been living wittnesses to jesus’ earthly ministry which -I postulate – would have given a more pure faith and motivation. The Holy Spirit doesn't wait for people to have their lives in total order before he moves powerfully. Sam Storms (also the author of One Thing: Developing a Passion for the Beauty of God), in his newest book, Practicing the Power: Welcoming the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in Your Life, says this: “I believe that one of the reasons why spiritual gifts are less frequent in certain seasons of church history than in others is due to the fact that people didn’t seek, pursue, or passionately and incessantly pray for these gifts. Your thoughts on this? The Spirit has many functions, roles, and activities. The differences are real. You make such a valid point that there is a middle ground between total cessationism and total continuationism (is that a word?) And often the reason they didn’t pray for them or ask for them is because they had a prior conviction or belief that they did not exist or were not available to them. I’ve worshiped in both types of churches. Satan is beneath you, in Christ’s name.”, “We are to pray, ‘Come, Holy Spirit,’ and be confident that he will, whether or not manifestations follow. Praying you have a meaningful Easter! I wish I could understand his ways better. I think the reason we see so few miracles today – or seem to see few – is that most of the people practicing the Gifts do so for their own glorification, or at best to lay at the altar f an imaginary God, one whom they think they can either bribe or placate with their works. I would be interested in hearing what the author’s interpretation is. Regarding embarrassing examples of faith healers on TV (or in person), Storms says, “I resolved in my heart that I would never justify my disobedience to God’s Word because of the abusive or embarrassing practices of others.”, “God is far more pleased with our obedience than he is with our success. I hear you, Lesley. My views are still in flux. 2:13; 1 Pet. I suspect that there are many, many miracles, say, of healing, performed by people who don’t advertise them on websites, and whose grateful recipients realize that there is something holy about the right hand not telling the left what it’s doing. Perhaps that is how God is moving there or perhaps they are more likely to come to Him in childlike faith without so much thinking included. And the risk is worth it.”, “When God wants to bless us with a miraculous answer to our prayer, he will take the initiative to cultivate and build into our hearts the fulfillment of the condition he requires.”. I’m so grateful for that! My views have changed over the years. Have a meaningful Holy Week, friend. “If little else of practical benefit comes to you who read this chapter, I pray that you will move forward in your Christian life and in whatever ministry God has given you with a newly found and biblically grounded confidence in the authority and power given to every believer in the name of Jesus. God definitely shows up where he is wanted and in ways he can be seen! But let us see what the Bible says!Speaking with other tongues - that is, the ability to speak by the power of the … I have been hearing a lot about obedience recently and I like that God is not looking at out success but out obedience. Even when we can’t see him, we can know he is with us. I’m always amazed at stories of missionaries in foreign countries. The Word of God does not change, nothing will be taken away or put to it. Can you explain Acts 10:44 and why the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles? Etymology. those whose greatest fear in worship is emotionalism and those whose greatest fear is intellectualism. Why do we need the Holy Spirit? The Bible shows us clearly what the Holy Spirit is. I have seen excesses, but I have also been in quiet settings where I have seen power that was undeniable. “I believe that one of the reasons why spiritual gifts are less frequent in certain seasons of church history than in others is due to the fact that people didn’t seek, pursue, or passionately and incessantly pray for these gifts. I don’t ever want to limit what God can do through the Spirit. Read more about who the Holy Spirit is and the necessary and life-changing role He can play in our lives. I love how your words and your reading force me to think. The Holy Spirit is very active today. Holy Spirit seals us unto the day of redemption (Eph. Yes, holy spirit is active by moving people to examine the basis of their faith in the light of the Holy Bible, to see what the Bible really teaches, namely … Like other gifts, speaking in tongues is a gift from the Holy Spirit. Those who have seen His work know His reality. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The Holy Spirit confirms things as true. Paul writes, Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. If that is what you are saying, then you are correct. I think the point is not God’s continued mercy, but our ability to receive it. Receiving the Holy Spirit is not only possible, it is essential for Christ-centered living. Their faith is forever changed and solidified because of it. ha. Your thoughts? Did Moses copy the Old Testament from other sources? . I grew up in churches where we believed strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit being in operation for today, so yes I still believe that. I’ve seen, too, how the extremes on either end can be unhealthy. I so appreciate you taking the time to write down these thoughts, Barbara. I agree with you–because I’ve seen the Spirit actively at work in my own life and in the lives of others, I believe that he is definitely still active today. If so, then is the Old Testament not reliable. That’s the here humanity has reached…. It is not a giving up of food (or some activity) for its own sake. Some go beyond the gifts explained in the Scripture claiming the church now has more power than the apostles had and abilities from new gifts that not … The Holy Spirit is a real person, like the heavenly Father and Jesus … It is about giving up food for Christ’s sake. I’ve been blinded in the past by my own disbelief in them to have seen as many as I could have (if that makes sense). However, because we have the completed Words of God, the Spirit does … Step into Uncertainty—My One Word for 2021, Happy New Year and the Grace & Truth Linkup, Practicing the Power: Welcoming the Gifts of the Holy Spirit in Your Life, Please share your thoughts in the comments, 40 Days with the Holy Spirit – Book review, When You Want to Pray WITH Others, Not Just FOR Others. Speaking in tongues is only spoken to God. I can’t guarantee that my prayers for the sick will result in healing. It sounds like a good book, Lisa! The miraculous is recorded principally during the ministry of Moses and Joshua, as well as during the ministry of Elijah and Elishah. The author of Practicing the Power believes that the Spirit still gives gifts today. Using the bible, the Spirit teaches and convicts us of the truth and assures us that they are saved (1Jn 3:24, 2Cor 1:22, Eph 1:13; 4:30) It is the Spirit in our lives that unites us to Christ in his death and resurrection (Rom 6:1-11, Gal 2:20). If you look at the Old and the New Testament you will discover that throughout most of the history of God’s people, there were few miracles. I also appreciate you sharing your personal experiences. Please … The Bible says that the Holy Spirit created the world (Genesis 1:2), led Jesus into the desert (Matthew 4:1), comes to us at Confirmation (), and intercedes for us in sighs that we cannot understand (Romans 8:26).Always remember that The Church teaches that The Holy Spirit … And yet, very little of the Spirit’s work is properly recognized by God’s people today. Many Christians have been influenced by the doctrine that the gifts of the Spirit are no longer for this time and age. While it is a fact that Cornelius did receive a baptism of the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:45; 11:15-16), the key to understanding why Holy Spirit baptism is not being replicated today is to be found in discovering the purpose behind the events of Acts 10.. Let me begin by saying there is no reason to deny that Cornelius and his kinsmen actually were given a baptism of the Holy Spirit… I do believe the Holy Spirit is very active today, but personally I don’t think what we call the “sign gifts” are what He primarily uses today. Trying to physically prove existence of God. to Josephus John the Baptist died 5 years after Jesus and that the gospel writers rewrote history to fit the Jesus narrative? “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” Galatians 5:22-23a. Are the gifts of the Holy Spirit still active today? But I can control whether or not I am willing to step out and take a risk. Before He returned to heaven, Jesus said, “… you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit … But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you.” Acts 1:5-8. If they do, we should not prevent them from occurring. God is God… Saying the Holy Spirit is not active is saying God is not! These are two extremes. I’ve definitely known MANY more people who have prayed for healing and not received it, than the reverse. It didn’t, and even in my untaught state I thought that was a little suspicious. I am very much confused as some say that for example speaking in tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit while the other says it is 100 percent demonic. And I’m glad. So much to learn from each other indeed! As always, it DOES look like a great book. The drive to figure out and explore what is and what is not about God only makes us push towards blurred lines. How is this reconciled? In other words, they had not because they asked not, and they asked not because they believed not!”. But it doesn’t negate the presence of the very thing. I think what you are saying is that for the past 1900 years or so, the Holy Spirit has not been working through public, physical miracles, as He did during the ministry of Jesus and in the very early church. It is not a person but is a powerful force that God causes to emanate from himself to accomplish his holy will (Reasoning from the Scriptures 1985, 81). 1 Cor 12:3 says we cannot say Jesus is Lord unless we have the Spirit, but the Bible teaches we must say Jesus is Lord to receive the Holy Spirit. 4:5). Do you believe the Holy Spirit still works today in miraculous ways? But neither should we take steps to artificially induce them.”. I do believe the Holy Spirit is active today. Which is correct? Such a blessing that he is here and working! The word spirit (from the Latin spiritus meaning "breath") appears either alone or with other words in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and the New Testament.Combinations include expressions such as the "Holy Spirit", "Spirit of God", and in Christianity, "Spirit of Christ".. I can’t promise that my word to you will be spot-on accurate. I do very much agree that we shouldn’t “take steps to artificially induce” those manifestations. Have a blessed Easter weekend worshipping our Lord! First, "receiving the Holy Spirit" is the same as "the baptism in the Holy Spirit." . I have seen both sides of it- being in a church where I was taught that the gifts of the Holy Spirit didn’t operate today and also a church where the gifts of the Spirit were encouraged but where I think there was some wrong and dangerous teaching around them- e.g. Looks like an interesting book. If the OT prophecies of the Messiah came true, why did Jews not believe in Jesus? I’m still trying to find the right belief for myself. It’s a gift I’ve not been given. W. L. Craig says that the Jews believed in a kingly Messiah would free them from Rome. As such the role of the Spirit is multi-faceted. This is true for me, too: “I have seen excesses, but I have also been in quiet settings where I have seen power that was undeniable.” I’m so glad the Spirit knows how to show up regardless of the situation. Our Teacher of righteousness. Why is the Holy Spirit not active today as during the Old and New Testaments? Thank you for the book review. You speak wisdom here, Ifeoma: “For the most part, whether we think or believe what we want, it doesn’t change who God is.” God is who God is, regardless of what we believe about him. I think He works in different ways and whatever the situation may be. It as more like a number of people praying for them, and when they went back for tests, the tests showed nothing was wrong. No! Now, I wouldn’t think that it’s crazy, but maybe her healing wouldn’t happen on the spot, but maybe years later. Learn more about the importance of the Holy Spirit in Christianity. How is the Holy Spirit active in our lives today? I love learning from others who have had different experiences and studies. My scripture this mornings hits it pretty well. Holy Spirit, in Christian belief, the third person of the Trinity. Not everyone is bestowed of this gift. Happy Easter to you too, friend! The Holy Spirit is the seal and guarantee (Eph. The writer of Hebrews tells us that the purpose of miracles (or at least one of the purposes) is to testify to and confirm the message (Hebrews 2:4). But yes, they can be two different things. In other words, they had not because they asked not, and they asked not because they believed not!”. He does a balanced job of showing pros and cons of how people have used and misused the gifts in the past. As mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles, outpourings of the Holy Spirit can include healing, prophecy, exorcism, and speaking in tongues. He does say worship can be awakened, sustained, and energized by the Spirit. For example, I don’t think we necessarily need to speak in tongues during a meeting with fellow Christians. When Jesus told His disciples that He would send another comforter, I do not believe that He was saying for them only. Mysticism? Once as a teenager (not having grown up in church or been taught about any of this at that point), I called the advertised phone number of one of the better known Christian TV programs, and I don’t remember if the guy said anything to me about grace or forgiveness or Jesus. Being a cessationist doesn’t mean I think the Holy Spirit is inactive or is just waiting behind the scenes quietly until the end of the world. We can see him differently based on our right or wrong beliefs, but who he is remains constant. Am I wrong in thinking this? Otherwise, the miraculous was rare in the Old Testament. In other words: if you don’t think it will happen, it’s less likely to. “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit …” Ephesians 4:30. Your concluding paragraph is so true: the working of the Spirit is often through people that are quiet and “invisible” as they allow him to move through them. When were they saved? Maybe we don’t realize how subtle the devil’s power is in our culture, so we don’t pray hard against it. As Andrew says there are still raw miracles and moves of the Holy Spirit by seemingly ordinary people who truly follow Jesus. My views on Holy Spirit have changed through the years, too, thankfully. 32 thoughts on “ Holy Spirit – Still Active Today or Not? It wasn’t until years layer that I realized God HAD answered, and it didn’t happen because it wasn’t something I needed. How were the gifts of the Holy Spirit given? I don't know sir. What Anita said. 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